End Wars and Occupations IOT Monthly Conference Call - Progressive Democrats of America

 September 2012
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Rich gave an outline on how the EWO page was designed, Sally then spoke about contributions to PDA and then the talk by Ray McGovern began at the 14:00 minute mark. Unfortunately, there was audio interference that lasted for awhile and finally ended at the 19:00 mark.
Ray felt that the next few months are Netanyahu's last, best chance to try and hit Iran by bombing Irans' nuclear sites. One of the problems that make reducing tensions with Iran difficult is that the forces on hand didn't have any way of communicating with each other. Americans and Iranians were using hand signals. A sensible proposal has been made to the very highly pro-Israel Senator Carl Levin, but the proposal is still bottled up there. Netanyahu showed great disrespect to Obama, to which Obama has failed to respond forcefully. Fortunately, Obama is showing a bit of spine, so there's some reason for optimism that there won't be a war, at least not before the election.
Sandy had an extensive question concerning a “red line” that Iran couldn't cross without starting a war with the US. As Iran is very clearly not building a nuclear weapon, but as Netanyahu is insisting that the red line should be whether or not Iran has a nuclear weapons capability (which, arguably, they already have), that would mean that Iran has already crossed it.
The various complexes (Military-industrial-etc.) are committed to Israel, but that commitment probably can't survive much longer versus phenomenon like the Arab Spring. A major problem with Israel starting a war with Iran would be the anti-semitic blow-back. Romney has made it clear that he will support an Israeli attack on Iran, so we on the left must make that consequences of such an attack clear to people.
Sandy related some cheerful stories about getting his Congressperson to sign onto some good bills.